Comments on: Can Mobility Offset an Increase in Inequality? http://lanekenworthy.net/2008/07/06/can-mobility-offset-an-increase-in-inequality/ Lane Kenworthy Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:19:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: piglet http://lanekenworthy.net/2008/07/06/can-mobility-offset-an-increase-in-inequality/#comment-539 piglet Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:54:05 +0000 http://lanekenworthy.net/?p=149#comment-539 Here's the reference and I'm wondering whether anybody takes notice: <b>Intergenerational Mobility in Europe and North America</b> http://www.suttontrust.com/reports/IntergenerationalMobility.pdf Key findings: - <b>International comparisons indicate that intergenerational mobility in Britain is of the same order of magnitude as in the US, but that these countries are substantially less mobile than Canada and the Nordic countries. Germany also looks to be more mobile than the UK and US, but a small sample size prevents us drawing a firm conclusion.</b> - Intergenerational mobility fell markedly over time in Britain, with there being less mobility for a cohort of people born in 1970 compared to a cohort born in 1958. No similar change is observed in the US. Here’s the reference and I’m wondering whether anybody takes notice:

Intergenerational Mobility in Europe and North America

http://www.suttontrust.com/reports/IntergenerationalMobility.pdf

Key findings:

- International comparisons indicate that intergenerational mobility in Britain is of the same order of magnitude as in the US, but that these countries are substantially less mobile than Canada and the Nordic countries. Germany also looks to be more mobile than the UK and US, but a small sample size prevents us drawing a firm conclusion.
- Intergenerational mobility fell markedly over time in Britain, with there being less mobility for a cohort of people born in 1970 compared to a cohort born in 1958. No similar change is observed in the US.

]]> By: The Ambrosini Critique » Blog Archive » Inequality and mobility http://lanekenworthy.net/2008/07/06/can-mobility-offset-an-increase-in-inequality/#comment-510 The Ambrosini Critique » Blog Archive » Inequality and mobility Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:25:45 +0000 http://lanekenworthy.net/?p=149#comment-510 [...] Kenworthy’s endorsement of Friedman’s views of inequality, I assume he agrees the best measure of income inequality is inequality of lifetime earnings. So if [...] [...] Kenworthy’s endorsement of Friedman’s views of inequality, I assume he agrees the best measure of income inequality is inequality of lifetime earnings. So if [...]

]]> By: kio http://lanekenworthy.net/2008/07/06/can-mobility-offset-an-increase-in-inequality/#comment-507 kio Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:22:24 +0000 http://lanekenworthy.net/?p=149#comment-507 The example looks banal. In thermodynamics, this result was obtained more than 100 years ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_%28statistical_thermodynamics%29 The example looks banal. In thermodynamics, this result was obtained more than 100 years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_%28statistical_thermodynamics%29

]]> By: Andrew Gelman http://lanekenworthy.net/2008/07/06/can-mobility-offset-an-increase-in-inequality/#comment-505 Andrew Gelman Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:56:53 +0000 http://lanekenworthy.net/?p=149#comment-505 The phenomenon you described of people switching apartments definitely happened--well, maybe not the penthouse part, but with regular apartments. My parents grew up in the Depression in New York City and they told me it was common for families to move down the street or even to a different apartment within their building as their financial circumstances changed--moving to a two-bedroom apartment when they could afford it, then to a one-bedroom apt on the ground floor when they had less money. I expect people do a lot less of this sort of moving nowadays: people have so many more possessions now, it just seems to take more effort to move. The phenomenon you described of people switching apartments definitely happened–well, maybe not the penthouse part, but with regular apartments.

My parents grew up in the Depression in New York City and they told me it was common for families to move down the street or even to a different apartment within their building as their financial circumstances changed–moving to a two-bedroom apartment when they could afford it, then to a one-bedroom apt on the ground floor when they had less money.

I expect people do a lot less of this sort of moving nowadays: people have so many more possessions now, it just seems to take more effort to move.

]]> By: piglet http://lanekenworthy.net/2008/07/06/can-mobility-offset-an-increase-in-inequality/#comment-504 piglet Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:50:33 +0000 http://lanekenworthy.net/?p=149#comment-504 Social (integrgenerational) mobility in the US is one of the lowest in the developed world. Inequality is the highest in the developed world. So where does this idea come from that US inequality has been offset by mobility? There's absolutely nothing ibn the data to support such a claim. In fact, it seems we are being served the old fairy tale again. Social (integrgenerational) mobility in the US is one of the lowest in the developed world. Inequality is the highest in the developed world. So where does this idea come from that US inequality has been offset by mobility? There’s absolutely nothing ibn the data to support such a claim. In fact, it seems we are being served the old fairy tale again.

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