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	<description>Lane Kenworthy</description>
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		<title>By: Ralph Musgrave</title>
		<link>http://lanekenworthy.net/2009/01/14/a-keynesian-free-lunch/#comment-1721</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ralph Musgrave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 15:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Terry G: No one claims that the road to riches consists simply of printing bits of paper with “$100” inscribed on them. At the same time, economies need a money supply. It is a reasonable assumption that this supply will need to expand in line with the expansion of the economy in real terms.

Moreover, if households decide to hoard the bits of paper (i.e. deleverage) rather than spend them, the fact is that this means unemployment. 

This is not to deny that Austrians have a point, i.e. that without a money supply expansion the economy will in the long run self correct. But I suspect Keynes was right when he said that “in the long run we are all dead”. Nor is this to deny that there are risks in a money supply expansion: the risk is that governments and central banks are so incompetent that they will fail to take anti-inflationary measures when the expanded money supply begins to stoke inflation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry G: No one claims that the road to riches consists simply of printing bits of paper with “$100” inscribed on them. At the same time, economies need a money supply. It is a reasonable assumption that this supply will need to expand in line with the expansion of the economy in real terms.</p>
<p>Moreover, if households decide to hoard the bits of paper (i.e. deleverage) rather than spend them, the fact is that this means unemployment. </p>
<p>This is not to deny that Austrians have a point, i.e. that without a money supply expansion the economy will in the long run self correct. But I suspect Keynes was right when he said that “in the long run we are all dead”. Nor is this to deny that there are risks in a money supply expansion: the risk is that governments and central banks are so incompetent that they will fail to take anti-inflationary measures when the expanded money supply begins to stoke inflation.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry G</title>
		<link>http://lanekenworthy.net/2009/01/14/a-keynesian-free-lunch/#comment-1026</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terry G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 05:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder when economics will add up to logical math.   Spending money to stimulate the economy, what a horrible concept if one spends poorly.  There is no free lunch here.   I am dumbfounded by the notion that all one has to do is out think 300Million people and the economy is better off.   Sorry the data over time does not support that.   Try some Austrian economics for a change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder when economics will add up to logical math.   Spending money to stimulate the economy, what a horrible concept if one spends poorly.  There is no free lunch here.   I am dumbfounded by the notion that all one has to do is out think 300Million people and the economy is better off.   Sorry the data over time does not support that.   Try some Austrian economics for a change.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Musgrave</title>
		<link>http://lanekenworthy.net/2009/01/14/a-keynesian-free-lunch/#comment-950</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ralph Musgrave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erratum: Sorry - the word &quot;product&quot; in my second para above should be &quot;exports&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erratum: Sorry &#8211; the word &#8220;product&#8221; in my second para above should be &#8220;exports&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Musgrave</title>
		<link>http://lanekenworthy.net/2009/01/14/a-keynesian-free-lunch/#comment-949</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ralph Musgrave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don’t agree with Lane’s claim that Keynsian deficits are “suspiciously similar” to the “supply side economists’”claim that tax cuts stimulate the economy.  The two are quite different.

The text book explanation of deficits is that they are an injection into an economy (or a net increase in aggregate demand). I.e. deficits work for much the same reason as increased demand for a country’s products would raise demand in the country concerned.

In contrast, the supply side argument, as I understand it,  is that reducing personal taxation, particularly on the rich or on entrepreneurs, gives everyone (particularly entrepreneurs) added incentive to create jobs, produce more, seek out orders, sell more etc etc. A “supply sider” would argue that a personal tax reduction would work even if aggregate demand is initially not affected (e.g. if the reduced personal taxation were matched by reduced government spending).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t agree with Lane’s claim that Keynsian deficits are “suspiciously similar” to the “supply side economists’”claim that tax cuts stimulate the economy.  The two are quite different.</p>
<p>The text book explanation of deficits is that they are an injection into an economy (or a net increase in aggregate demand). I.e. deficits work for much the same reason as increased demand for a country’s products would raise demand in the country concerned.</p>
<p>In contrast, the supply side argument, as I understand it,  is that reducing personal taxation, particularly on the rich or on entrepreneurs, gives everyone (particularly entrepreneurs) added incentive to create jobs, produce more, seek out orders, sell more etc etc. A “supply sider” would argue that a personal tax reduction would work even if aggregate demand is initially not affected (e.g. if the reduced personal taxation were matched by reduced government spending).</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://lanekenworthy.net/2009/01/14/a-keynesian-free-lunch/#comment-936</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[quick follow up- i meant that productivity improvements can be a free lunch too- that essentially they&#039;re an investment that will produce larger tax revenues down the road.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quick follow up- i meant that productivity improvements can be a free lunch too- that essentially they&#8217;re an investment that will produce larger tax revenues down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://lanekenworthy.net/2009/01/14/a-keynesian-free-lunch/#comment-935</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;re leaving out the potential productivity boost of Keynsian deficit spending. Lots of the spending in the new stimulus bill is designed to both increase demand and productivity. Infrastructure improvements are a good example. They create jobs which gives people more money to spend while eliminating things like supply bottle necks or traffic jams or other kinds of limits on productivity. In fact there&#039;s a parallel argument in supply-side theory- that tax cuts will lead to investment, which will enhance productivity and then create jobs and demand.

I also think there&#039;s an argument to be made that the economy runs a demand deficit more often than people think, and that it&#039;s not just during depressions or recessions. In the 40s, 50s, and 60s it was basically conventional wisdom among mainstream liberals that government had to keep spending more to prevent recessions and promote growth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re leaving out the potential productivity boost of Keynsian deficit spending. Lots of the spending in the new stimulus bill is designed to both increase demand and productivity. Infrastructure improvements are a good example. They create jobs which gives people more money to spend while eliminating things like supply bottle necks or traffic jams or other kinds of limits on productivity. In fact there&#8217;s a parallel argument in supply-side theory- that tax cuts will lead to investment, which will enhance productivity and then create jobs and demand.</p>
<p>I also think there&#8217;s an argument to be made that the economy runs a demand deficit more often than people think, and that it&#8217;s not just during depressions or recessions. In the 40s, 50s, and 60s it was basically conventional wisdom among mainstream liberals that government had to keep spending more to prevent recessions and promote growth.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Jeffy</title>
		<link>http://lanekenworthy.net/2009/01/14/a-keynesian-free-lunch/#comment-932</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle Jeffy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding the supply-side claim to a free lunch, Austan Goolsbee pretty thoroughly debunked that line quite a while ago (http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/austan.goolsbee/research/laf.pdf). To quote from his conclusion:

&quot;The notion that governments could raise more money by cutting rates is, indeed, a glorious idea. It would permit a Pareto improvement of the most enjoyable kind. Unfortunately for all of us, the data from the historical record suggest that it is unlikely to be true at anything like today’s marginal tax rates. It seems that, for now at least, we will have to keep paying for our tax cuts the old fashioned way.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the supply-side claim to a free lunch, Austan Goolsbee pretty thoroughly debunked that line quite a while ago (<a href="http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/austan.goolsbee/research/laf.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/austan.goolsbee/research/laf.pdf</a>). To quote from his conclusion:</p>
<p>&#8220;The notion that governments could raise more money by cutting rates is, indeed, a glorious idea. It would permit a Pareto improvement of the most enjoyable kind. Unfortunately for all of us, the data from the historical record suggest that it is unlikely to be true at anything like today’s marginal tax rates. It seems that, for now at least, we will have to keep paying for our tax cuts the old fashioned way.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: pushmedia1</title>
		<link>http://lanekenworthy.net/2009/01/14/a-keynesian-free-lunch/#comment-930</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keynesian free lunch is free in theory.  In practice, government has to find those underutilized resources to spur demand for them and it has do so in time for it to have an impact (i.e. before those resources reallocate themselves in the usual, but painful, process of creative destruction).  Not to mention the political system has to work fast enough to authorize Keynesian spending in the first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keynesian free lunch is free in theory.  In practice, government has to find those underutilized resources to spur demand for them and it has do so in time for it to have an impact (i.e. before those resources reallocate themselves in the usual, but painful, process of creative destruction).  Not to mention the political system has to work fast enough to authorize Keynesian spending in the first place.</p>
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